Tuesday, January 31, 2006

Latest developments

By now, things are developing so fast that its hard to keep track:

  • Hungary sides with Denmark. Says the Hungarian foreign minister: "To us, freedom of speech is a cornerstone of a functioning democracy". The arab reaction is "unfitting".
  • In the arab parts of Palestine, the Danish representative office in Ramallah was fired on yesterday, and today demonstrations burned pictures of, among others, prime minister Fogh, US president Bush and Israeli prime minister Olmert.
  • In Iraq, a terrorist has issued a fatwa against the Danish battalion stationed there.
  • In Sudan, the foreign minister has urged "all sudanese companies and institutions to stop the omport of Danish products".
  • In Bahrain, the parliament has passed a resolution calling for boycott of Danish goods, and demanding apologies from the Danish government and the Danish queen.
  • A like resolution from the Egyptian parliament has brought EU trade commisioner Peter Mandelson to threaten opening an investigation into it, since government-sponsored boycotts are a breach of WTO-rules.
  • At the same time the Council of Arab Ministers of the Interior representing 17 arab ministers has demanded the Danish government punish those responsible for the 12 drawings.
  • Suicide bombers are threatening attacks on Denmark.

In Denmark, things are heating up, too:

38 Comments:

Blogger Gorm said...

As a Dane I must say that it’s quite fascinating to see how this case is developing and now has reached completely surreal level.

How can some stupid caricatures cause such an outcry? They aren’t even particularly well made.

Born and bred and living in a modern well-functioning prosperous democracy with a free and open press, it is really hard to understand the hysteria these twelve ludicrous caricatures have caused.

I can assure any Muslims out there, that none of these caricatures were meant as an insult to Islam or Mohammed.
I read the newspaper the day they were published and didn’t even really notice them and neither did most Danes.
In the public debate in this country satire, irony, sarcasm and humour are all legal means and widely used and accepted to get the message across. In the past I’ve seen many way harsher caricatures of e.g. authorities, politician and the Queen.
In 1984 an artist even did a huge mural of Jesus with an erect penis. This caused a bit of a stir and some heated debate about the artistic right to freedom of expression for some time. As the mural was done in a train station it was eventually painted over, but the artist wasn’t fined or jailed or anything – the public simply found it to be a bit too much.

In this light the caricatures should be seen and were they meant – as a mean to facilitate debate and NOT to insult Muslims and their faith.

I think this ongoing free and open debate has helped strengthening both our society, democracy and Christian faith immensely.

Cheers
Gorm

10:49 AM  
Blogger Heloise said...

The mohammedans say it is blasphemy for ANYONE to portray mohammed, including non-believers. It's a power "thing" as islam means submission.

I love the Danes! And any Europeans who side with them in this ridculous assault on freedom of speech and expression.

This is a good blog, will add it to my favorites. Thanks

Onward through the fog of political correctness and multiculturalism in the memory of Theo VanGogh.

1:19 PM  
Blogger eyesallaround said...

Viking Observer,

You mean the apology didn't work? Hmmm, darn those muslemen.

gorm,

In my opinion they are trying to "soften up" their targets. They're trying to get you to change your society into a muslim society (at first), then the infidels(you) will be offered conversion, tax or death (when they have the strength for all out war).

In the words of one apostate muslim:

"Avenging Apostate said...

"Ask your father if he would want to go to Palestine and kill the Jews? I am sure he would say; I am busy with my business." said murtad girl.

No, he would never say that, you know why? because money isnt half as important to him as is the command of allah. he will sacrifice whatever he has and go fight the jews. Why isnt he doing it right now, u might ask! wait for the global jihad to trigger to its fullest, u will find not just my dad but my whole family in the battlefield fighting for allah.I understand that many in the west dont understand, its not a select few, its all of them - different things work for different people, they are waiting for their clock to tick down - thats all."

You can read his writings here:

http://pedestrianinfidel.b
logspot.com/

3:14 PM  
Blogger Renwaa said...

Hi, Henrik:

Thought this posted earlier, but it must not have worked. I posted from and linked to your site here:

http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=96561&st=20&p=683415793&

Keep up the good work! My husband is supposed to go to Dubai with about 38 other Danes + plus others from around the world next month for a meeting. He works for a large Danish shipping company [think real hard about who it may be! :-)]
and they've been warned about possible threats.

3:35 PM  
Blogger Mizgîn said...

Well, it looks like I'll have to start buying all the Danish products I can find.

Serkeftin (Victory), Denmark!

8:14 PM  
Blogger nixxon said...

Have you ever thought of trying to de-escalate the situation? I think the actual situation could have been avoided if the editors of jp had considered the fact that depicting their prophets (including Jesus) is a taboo. Now the damage is done and the Danish economy has to live with it. I wonder whether Arla will make jp pay for it.

5:46 AM  
Blogger eyesallaround said...

Nixon, you must have not read gorm's post (first one in the column here)...

7:10 AM  
Blogger Henrik said...

Drawing the pictures of Mohammed is taboo in Islam, not in any other religion.

Next thing, you´ll be telling us we should apologise for calling the stoning to death of unfaithful women a medieval practice.

Henrik

7:11 AM  
Blogger Vera said...

For all it's worth, Denmark has my support. Gonna go buy some Danish cheese now.

This whole scandal reminds me of South Park's "Blame Canada"-song:

Don't blame me for my Ahmad
He saw that darn cartoon and now he's off to join Jihad!
And my Muhammed once used to read the hadith all day
But now he became a Shiite and ran away!

Well, blame Denmark now, blame Denmark now,
It seems that everything's gone wrong
Since Denmark came along
Blame Denmark now, blame Norway too,
And let's blame also Sweden, just in case.

7:23 AM  
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7:52 AM  
Blogger ferdinand said...

Danmark, you are not alone. Ten thousands of Europeans support your right of free speech and humour.

Visit: www.supportdenmark.com and sign the petition.

8:00 AM  
Blogger Fellow Peacekeeper said...

Bravo !

Denmark is leading the way, and holding aloft the light of western civilization. Jyllands Posten has become the global benchmark of integrity, courage and standards in journalism. Keep it up.

Jyllands Posten didn't mean to insult? Good for them, the Posten journos are polite chaps obviously, but hey, freedom of expression means among other things, that one can insult ANYBODY, ANYTHING, ANYTIME. And particularly the sacred cows of evil and wicked foreign cults with backward, barbaric and unenlightened followers.

Fatwa on the Danish battalion? I've been on mission with those guys and they rock. Stand tall Vikings, and let the ragheads bring it on.

And is that a French paper that has decided to follow? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4669360.stm

8:07 AM  
Blogger eyesallaround said...

Anybody have any update on whether it was only companies who would NOT do business with Israel, which are hit by the boycott? Just curious.

I've often pondered this idea of being "offended". How can one take offense if something is not true? I was talking with a friend one night (she's hispanic) and I said "Would you be offended if I said your mother is a whore?" (I know her mom and she's the sweetest person on the planet. Anyhow, she said "YES!" I said "But it's not true. How can you be offended by something that's not true?"

She said "It's mean and meant to hurt." I said "But even if it was meant to hurt, but is not true, then you are giving the other person the power to hurt you. If someone called my mom a whore, I'd say "No she's not. She's a Baptist.""

It was kind of funny in retrospect. I'm ethnic Norwegian, and I think we have cooler temperaments than people from the warmer climates. Cold climate people have to learn not to take offense when you spend that much time indoors I guess....

10:54 AM  
Blogger Gorm said...

Thank you Germany - you are a gem.
http://www.welt.de/

Just found this site -
http://skender.be/supportdenmark/

Cheers
Gorm

11:25 AM  
Blogger bordergal said...

It's heartening to see other European countries jumping on the free speech bandwagon.

I hope our papers in the US join in soon.

Denmark has a lot of friends over here.

11:52 AM  
Blogger bordergal said...

Have you ever thought of trying to de-escalate the situation? I think the actual situation could have been avoided if the editors of jp had considered the fact that depicting their prophets (including Jesus) is a taboo.

Nixxon, I am offended by your calling on the editors to back down. I demand you stop speaking such drivel immediately!

Point being: where does it stop???
Anyone can demand that anyone shut up because they are offended.
Shall I threaten the lives of people who tell blond jokes, because of my oh so senstive blond feelings?

Soon, no speech will be permitted, on the grounds it might be "offensive to someone".

Maybe you would like to live in such a country, I would not.
Vigorous, and often heated debate WITHOUT PHYSICAL VIOLENCE is one of western civilization's greatest triumphs.

12:08 PM  
Blogger Fed Up Arab said...

Dear Danes and other readers!
My name is Ahmad; I’m an Arab by nationality. I live in Europe though since a few years! Europe this awesome continent, this land of free thoughts and express!
The reason I'm here on this blog is because I'm almost suffocating and want to SHOUT, want to CRY OUT and tell the freaking Moslem world ENOUGH is ENOUGH!
I’m Moslem “by birth”, but I don’t believe in Islam or its teaching, something I always say loudly, I have my right, after all, to reject Islam and it’s prophet Muhammad. I found this blog easily through the blog search and I wanted so badly to leave this comment here. I’m sick of this bizarre and scary reaction from the Moslem world, though it doesn’t surprise me!
I want to mention some points here:

1. Moslems always have this sense of “inferiority”; they can never accept critic or\and react wisely to it. They have been raised since childhood to criticize others,demoralize others, call them “infidels”, and expect the entire humanity to believe in their teachings and doctrines.

2. Something very important most people seem to forget: The dictatorships that run the entire hellish Middle East have left very little space for people to express themselves and think in general, plus Islam itself that judges those who don’t agree with it and label them immediately as infidels and hell-goers, plus the very not democratic nature of Islam - all these play a big factor in this wild and crazy reaction from Moslems, especially in the Middle East. People there are not supposed and don’t have the right to demonstrate against anything except the USA, Israel and something like these cartoons. Suddenly, all those masses are on the streets emptying their anger and wrath on "Danish products" and on the Danes themselves, suddenly they HAVE THE RIGHT to say something, suddenly they have the right to SPEAK OUT, suddenly they and their governments (that have been ruling them like a cattle of sheep) are in the same line – suddenly they are all united!
And for those Moslems in Europe who are supposed to bee enjoying the world of democracy and free thought, they'll will never get to understand the real meaning of democracy because they are blinded by 1400-year old Islamic teachings and dictatorship! They are suffering an identity conflict, Islam is an identity for them, and it'll always stand (for most of them, i know one should never generalize) against being active
and "healthy" members of a free, democratic society.
3. Not for a single time, our Moslems went out to the streets to demonstrate hostage killings, suicide bombers, and other forms of so-called Jihad! Only shy condemning from some clerics. Not for a single time those masses who live in Europe, the USA and other parts of the free world asked themselves “Why are we here in the first place?” They all know the answer though! They all know that being in Europe means freedom, good living standards- simply, BEING A HUMAN! Most of them would never want (if not all) to go back to their home countries, we all know why! So when you enjoy European standards of living, you can’t just take the part you like and leave the rest, and then ask others (Europeans, I mean) to respect your stupid choice!! This is sick! This is the logic Moslems are using in the West.
I have so much to say, I’m filled with anger more than any Dane, I’m filled with shame when I have to explain to my friends here Why this is happening, I’m filled with hope though that this will be the first step to draw a line and say ENOUGH! Europe has been more than “kind” and too tolerant to its Moslem immigrants, we have seen many results to that policy: the UK, France, and now Denmark! I’m glad , really glad that a French news paper has published the drawings again. I’m glad that more people here will stop being APOLOGISTS and realize that Europe should never lose its values of free speech and free thinking because some “sensitive Moslems” got offended!
I want also to mention that not all Arabs or Moslems are siding with this campaign against Denmark, Believe me! I’m not the only one! But our voices are not heard in the middle of this on-going craziness! That’s why I looked today for a blog, for a webpage, for a live Journal just to leave a few words and afford any help!
On that site, http://skender.be/supportdenmark/ I noticed that they don’t have an Arabic section, I know it’s not that important because I wonder how many serious Arabic readers they get daily, however I believe it’s symbolic and should be put and I’d like to offer my help and leave a message in Arabic!I'll contact the web admin and offer that with all my heart.
Something else, if you want to be laughing your guts out, just go to this blog

http://muttawa.blogspot.com/

it’s an awesome blog written by a Saudi. The word “Muttawa” means in Arabic: Religious Policemen who exist in Saudi Arabia. He has been talking a lot about these cartoons lately, he has some awesome posts. He has posted an "offence level indicator", it’s now elevated to “High” – give it a look, you’ll like the stuff written there!

Well, this my gibberish, I think I will start my own blog about my experience with Islam soon, and I will post the cartoons there, I swear (not by Allah I swear, but by God:):):)
I won’t boycott Danish products and I will look for them to buy and believe me I have other Arab friends and immigrants who are more than sick of this and I hope we manage to make our voice heard as a sign of respect to FREE EUROPE!
P.S. I like Danish beer so much, and I had a couple of Carlsbergs on weekend, well Cheers to you all, cheers to free Europe, and cheers to Denmark!

Ahmad

12:45 PM  
Blogger eyesallaround said...

Wow, great post Ahmad!

One of the most difficult things a person can do is admit they are wrong. I think this is what the Muslim world needs to do. Their religion has produced nothing but desolation, and enslavement. Their economies are shattered, and their people are mired in hopelessness, except for some crazy irrational hope of a world wide caliphate which will never happen. The only thing that will happen is more suffering.

It took great bravery for you to write what you’ve written today! I for one look forward to hearing from you again:>)

1:43 PM  
Blogger heather said...

Thanks Ahmad for an excellent post. Please encourage everyone who thinks like you to start making their views known everywhere--very loudly and very clearly.

2:00 PM  
Blogger Charles Martel said...

Ahmad - i'm on your side man - i really am. and i whole heartedly welcome people like you to Europe.

Most Muslim organisations equate "anti-Islam" with "racism" - which is an utter lie.

And that is why i'm saying this - i welcome you. i dont give two damns about the colour of your skin - as long as you believe in democracy, and freedom, you are very much welcome in Europe. we need more of you - lots more - to speak out.

here's hoping that the rule of the Mullahs will collapse this decade and liberate millions of people in the Middle East. I hope that you speaking out is a first step towards that.

4:06 PM  
Blogger Renwaa said...

To Fed Up: Hang in there and thanks for sharing your feelings.

To Eyes all around: I'm in the shipping business. If you work on a bank letter of credit from Saudi or other Arab country, you'll find an interesting little requirement that must be adhered to before they'll accept shipment/bank makes payment. That is that the vessel MAY NOT CALL AN ISRAELI PORT en route to it's final destination. Makes me wonder (this was in the USA) why we as a country will allow this???

Henrik: Thought you'd find this funny. CNN's "Situation Room" with Wolf Blitzer just did a segment on "internet news" (yeah, like this is only an internet story). Anyway, they showed the cartoons (not the bomb/turban one) but BLURRED OUT the depicted mohammed's face "as it may offend some viewers".

Way to go CNN. Censorship on a story about censorship. Wonder why they didn't show the same restrain with the thousands of times run pics from Abu Gharib?

(Don't answer that. This is the same station that censored itself in Iraq under Saddam in order to be allowed to stay and "report the news" from there.)

4:46 PM  
Blogger Helen said...

Great page. All people who believe in freedom MUST stand up and defend our rights. I think that Muslim countries are attempting to impose dhimmitude on the West. We cannot let that happen. Either we believe in the faith and values of Western civilization and defend them or we die. I have nothing against Muslims, but I will fight against Islam to the death. To Ahmad, since you know there is no freedom in Islam, since you do not believe in it, convert to Christianity for that is the true source of Western freedoms.

6:51 PM  
Blogger eyesallaround said...

Renwaa, Thanks for the clarification. We all might want to be more careful in the future about any "fine print".

6:51 PM  
Blogger Mike H. said...

Henrik, I expected some good links to Danish exports, but I can't find them. Doggone it. Ahmad, hang in there, this too will change.

9:08 PM  
Blogger Fed Up Arab said...

Guys, I’m more than touched! Really, this is the Europe I dreamt of for years. Since childhood years, when I always tried to speak my opinions loudly; I was confronted with hate and rejection. There is nothing in Islam called, “quit being a Moslem”, nothing like that at all! You are born as a Moslem so you are supposed to die as one- if you want to change that then you are labeled immediately as a “Murtad”, an Arabic word almost means a “defector”! In Qura’an, those who “quit” the Islam business are healed simply by death! This pisses me off even more.
Fanatic Moslems mentality goes this way: “you are lucky to be born as a Moslem so how dare you say anything against that?” and never forget that most ramblings are coming from the Middle East not from Moslems in other parts of the world, why is that? Because Arab Moslems, in my humble opinion, are more fanatic in a national way. Qura’an was written in Arabic and this “peaceful” book states that heaven is for Moslems, for those who believe in Qura’an; so it seems like Middle Eastern Moslems (Arabs) believe the entire earth should be learning Arabic to read the qura’an, and those who can’t read it in Arabic could be good Moslems after all (we give them the right), but they are not as “original” and “genuine” as Arab-speaking Moslems. Plus the fact that Mohamed was born in what’s called now Saudi Arabia, a country that still chops people’s heads in public, so Arabs feel that Mohamed kind of “belongs to them”!!! It’s amazing how easily you can agitate those masses; I’m ashamed of watching news or reading Arabic news websites. Of course, when I leave a comment there; it’s never showed, it’s been moderated and when I contacted the web admin angrily, he replied to me in Arabic someonething that would be translated exactly like this: “We don’t want to promote hate” ! OH my God, so I’m the one promoting hate now; I’m the one who is fanatic? This was a great example though about Middle Eastern Democracy. You can write whatever you want against other not-very-lucky non-Moslems in other countries, you can burn the US flag and shout “DOWN with the USA” all day long, and you can shout your lungs out “fascists, anti Islamists, anti “us” “ but when someone tried to say the opposite; be careful, it’s all “moderated”! Notice how the use of the word “moderate” here makes a scary oxymoron? Yes, guys, we are “moderate” and that’s why we moderate news, comments, news papers, people’s thoughts, and we do as well moderate demonstrations.

A funny cartoon that I no longer was able to find online goes like this: Anti USA demonstrations, people have set the US flag on fire, and someone is actively stepping on the flag and trampling on it with his boots, a friend says “hey, be careful you will burn your boots; you’ll damage them” and the guys answers “ no, no, don’t worry, they are really good ones , they are made in the USA; I paid lots of money for them). I liked this cartoon back then so much, because yes, it’s true most of those demonstrators dream of a US visa while burning that flag, the scary thing is that some of those DO actually get to the USA or Europe – this scares me because such “opportunists” will never be a “healthy”, faithful citizen! You know what I mean!!!!
You know what? I read a comment on an Arabic blog run by some intelligent Egyptian guys apparently http://egyptiansandmonkey.blogspot.com/2006/02/lets-boycott-boycott.html
They are calling for a boycott of the boycott, the same of what I’m trying to do here with others. Someone wrote there “I will only boycott the Danish products if Denmark apologizes and “punishes” the journalists”, I liked what he said very much and I join him as well. When more countries and governments will keep their apologists policy towards Islam, and treating those fanatic Moslems (who have no NATIONAL IDENTITY THOUGH THEY CARRY EUROPEAN CITIZENSHIPS) with care, apology, and sometimes even fear, Europe will never be the same! Why do they get this treatment as if everyone else on earth is GUILTY of something and has done something bad to them? You are always mistaken – no matter what you do, so I’m so glad someone more voices are saying NO, this is OUR Europe!


Eyesallaround, thank you! Yes it takes so much courage for sure. I’m used anyway to be treated like sh** from other Arabs and Moslems around when I speak loudly. I’m considered more “dangerous” and more harmful because I was born as a Moslem so it hurts their “national bride” and Islamic sensitive feelings when they see a by-birth Moslem talking like this. I’m also fed up of trying to be respectful and understanding because all what I got was total rejection and sometimes threats! I’m having a look on your blog- seems interesting!

Heather, I’m trying to do whatever I can, though I’m terribly busy with study, but I want to be active and not only an anonymous commentator on a blog.
I have gotten an answer from the guys running www.supportdenmark.com and they said they have already got an offer for Arabic translation (I’m so happy to hear that) but they’d like me to do a double check.

Islamophobic, lol, that’s a funny nick|! Believe me I’ve become more islamophobic than the phobia itself! It’s different when you see things from the inside; it touches you so personally and so painfully. And when you decide to leave Islam, Islam simply doesn’t leave you – you become worse than an infidel and qura’an states that someone like me should be killed. I don’t want to see the day when Moslems in Europe will ask Europeans to cover their heads and grow beards, or when they ask for a permission to “handle” infidels and no-longer Moslems like me (though they never ask for permissions). You have a great blog, I have added it to my favorites and want to be a constant reader of it – thank you for your kind words about race and skin color.

Renawa, thank you! I liked your observation on CNN, you are so right!

Helen, thank you as well. Of course, I don’t want to become a Christian ONLY because I stopped years ago being a Moslem. I want that to be a totally true and genuine move. I go to church, by the way because I have inner peace when I’m there, and because I like, personally, Jesus because he is a peacemaker, not a sword fighter with multiple wives. Anyway, this is another topic and it’s a bit personal. I don’t feel guilty about being with “no religion” so far, after all I do believe in humanity and this is the widest and truest belief for me.

Thanks you all for your words; I want to do something and not only comment and I’m trying hardly to take part in this e-war because one has to be faithful and appreciative for this Europe that offered him safety, freedom, and breathable air! (Let’s not start the pollution talk:):) I meant it in a mental way of course:)
By the way, some Arabic media has already found reasons explaining why the French news paper re-published the cartoons: “They are suffering financial problems and want some popularity”, well whatever their reasons are, I don’t give a damn and I hope more news papers will follow this example and seek popularity among their European readers, not Middle Eastern ones, very simple!
Viva Europe, Viva Denmark!
Time to have breakfast of Danish butter,cheese,and a tea cup - still a bit early for a Danish berr:):):)

12:15 AM  
Blogger Myanmar Muslim Blog said...

WAT? Freedom?? is it FREEDOM, to say bad thing to other FREEDOM practice RELIGION? so. why not it is FREEDOM that BINLADIN destroy TWIN TOWERS? it also is FREEDOM, why the FUCKING american go and invate IRAQ?
isn't it also FREEDOM? that IRAQ invade KUWAIT, u MOTHER FUCKERSS

1:38 AM  
Blogger Myanmar Muslim Blog said...

all those pictures are drawn and publish by JEWS, and CHRISTIAN ZIONIST EXTREMIST.
why the hell people think that kind of Extremist as FREEDOM?

1:41 AM  
Blogger Myanmar Muslim Blog said...

all those DANISH are a mess on the world. had to wip and clean out.

1:43 AM  
Blogger eyesallaround said...

MM,

It's called Freedom of SPEECH. Freedom of speech does not include freedom to blow up buildings. Regarding Iraq, they too now have Freedom of speech. If it weren't for the militants, Iraq would now be a happy peaceful nation, and we'd all being taking vacations to see ancient Babylon and Ninevah. Too bad you can't envision a peaceful, prosperous Middle East. Your vile hatred is going to destroy you and your people.

2:56 AM  
Blogger Fed Up Arab said...

To so-called “Myanamar Muslim BUG” , sorry man, I automatically wrote BUG, not BLOG
You are too damn retarded even to be answered! Your filthy hateful comments are just another example of Moslems incapacity for any satire or criticism. So have your critisim from a “Murtad”, from a by-birth Moslem who hates you and hates your religion, ok? Have it from me not from those peaceful Danes whose guilt is only their sense of humor and respect for free speech! Their guilt is that they have been kind enough to so many Moslems, like other Europeans did, and let them in their countries, forgetting that people like you are just dangerous parasites who will eventually start biting the hand that was good to them once! I hope you are no where in Europe and I hope you never make it here because people like you should never leave their countries and expose their filth to the whole world!

You said,
“All those DANISH are a mess on the world. had to wip and clean out” ,

Oh really? So those Danes are the ones ruining the whole world, I didn’t know that! Bad Danes, how dare you drive airplanes into buildings and kill thousands of innocent people? How dare you slit hostages’ throats on TV while shouting “Allah Akbar” and praising a sick, retarded, blood-thirsty Allah? How dare you abuse HUMAN RIGHTS systematically and “religiously” for more than 1400 year? How dare you condier that you are the ONLY ONES who own heaven and you have the right to decide who is in and who is out? How dare you reject the fact that if someone NO MORE wants to be a Moslem then he should be killed? Bad Danes, really I can keep counting for years the abuses that you have done to the entire mankind!

Your “logic” (please notice the quotation marks) about Bin Laden and Iraq is just way too stupid to be answered or discussed, they should be “disgust” actually, not discussed!
Stop pouring your venom on others and stop PROVING to others that “real” and fanatic Moslems are such retarded “CREATURES” who will never find a place for them on earth! I hope they send you all to space one day, and I’ll be the first one to say “Good Bye” to you and “have a very UNSAFE trip”!

P.S. Have you seen any TV advertisements about Danish butter? The Lurbak’s
one for example? Don’t you think that these cows have much better functioning brain than you do? Do not you think that they are offering humanity much more than you and your Islam is offering?
I actually believe in that so strongly. However, I should apologize for Danish cows for this comparison, I’m sure they do have more feelings than you do!

Bad Danes, Moslems self-bomb WTC, Madrid Metro, Paris, London, and other uncountable places and you “bomb” us with funny cartoons? Really bad guys those Danes can be!
Myanamar BUG: I wish I drew normally so that I’d have showed you and other “peaceful” Moslems the way I’d have drawn your (our) prophet!

4:17 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

Fed up:

Thank you so much for having the courage to speak out about the insanit y of Islam! Thank you! And thank you again!

If only more Muslims had the courage to speak out as you have. We Westeners - dare I say infidels! :-) - appreciate it very, very much.

7:12 AM  
Blogger Renwaa said...

Wow. Fedup, you are really brave. To the islamofascists, we're just kuffir to be ignored or dismissed as infidels. You, however are one of "them" meaning muslim by birth.

I pray for your safety and for your courage to continue. It is funny that the crazies can't see they've proven the point of the west by reacting with death threats and violence. Yesterday, the Washington post printed an offensive cartoon: http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004430.htm

I don't think the paper nor the cartoonist has to worry about death threats or bombings or beheadings. Only letters to the editor.

Isn't it amazing how rational people react?

/sarcasm

to myanmar moron: where's your outrage when the rabbis are depicted as cannibals or jews as pigs and apes? Your hypocricy is as laughable as your spelling and grammar. btw: I'm sure all those muslims being slaughtered by Saddam Hussein all those years appreciate your support as well. Psycho.

9:01 AM  
Blogger Renwaa said...

Henrik: Have you seen this?

Fabricated cartoons worsened Danish controversy
The controversy over the publication of cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed is expanding, as more Muslims join the boycott and protests against Denmark and various European newspapers decide to publish the cartoons, mostly out of solidarity with Jyllands Posten and to make a strong political stand. One issue that puzzles many Danes is the timing of this outburst. The cartoons were published in September: Why have the protests erupted from Muslims worldwide only now?

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On its face, it would appear as if nothing were wrong. However, the Danish Muslim delegation showed much more than the 12 cartoons published by Jyllands Posten. In the booklet it presented during its tour of the Middle East, the delegation included other cartoons of Mohammed that were highly offensive, including one where the Prophet has a pig face. But these additional pictures were NOT published by the newspaper, but were completely fabricated by the delegation and inserted in the booklet (which has been obtained and made available to me by Danish newspaper Ekstra Bladet). The delegation has claimed that the differentiation was made to their interlocutors, even though the claim has not been independently verified. In any case, the action was a deliberate malicious and irresponsible deed carried out by a notorious Islamist who in another situation had said that “mockery against Mohamed deserves death penalty.” And in a quintessential exercise in taqiya, Abu Laban has praised the boycott of Danish goods on al Jazeera, while condemning it on Danish TV.

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9:21 AM  
Blogger Charles Martel said...

UK jihadi website is calling for the killing of the cartoonists

if you want to meet them they'll be right outside the Danish embassy in London on Friday.

9:32 AM  
Blogger Fed Up Arab said...

Mark, Renwaa,

Thank you, really I’m doing this out of my very personal rage and experience with Islam! I’m not looking for anything and I’m not pursuing any “fame”; I’m just SICK OF ISALM! I don’t want to offend anyone’s feelings but I have been offended for years and years. My voice was always silenced cruelly and irrationally. I’m tired of Moslem’s mentality because I had to live with it on the streets, in school, and in my daily life. And when I choose to leave and come to Europe and finally got the chance to study here; I thought that I’d finally reached Freedom land, BUT it wasn’t the case! I was SHOCKED how many of "us" leave here; I was shocked that they consider themselves “at home” always; I was shocked that they become even MORE FANATIC than when home; I was shocked to see how they become more and more narrow-minded; and I was welcomed of course by more hatred. Back home I had to cop with their wrong doings only; but here I have to cop with people’s questions and aggressive looks sometimes when they hear from which country I came! I’m paying for their mistakes back home and here; and so do many other non-believer, moderate Moslems (very few), and Arab Christians! The MAIN difference is that when a curious European asks me a question and I answer honestly and openly; he/she respects my opinion and treats me always as a human, as an individual, for him/or her I no longer represent a threat or a weird creature – the very opposite: They start asking endless questions about my country and culture. But when talking to Moslems here; I get always either too angry and agitated or SCARED! And when I speak my mind loudly (not “IF” I speak, but “when” I speak) they react terribly and start the hell-talk or the talk about being a bastard, a “defector” who will end up with no identify- Yes Islam for them is an identity; you can not be a human only!
I know safety is important but I have reached my limits; I can no longer take it! I swear to you I didn’t choose to fight Islam; Islam has chosen to fight me always even after I left it; I QUIT; I asked for a truce; ISLAM NEVER KNOWS A TRUCE; war and fighting is the main power that moves Islam, a spread-by-sword religion.
I’m spending hours online trying to do something; translate for some pages is the only helpful thing I have been doing so far! I do not think my extra shopping for Danish cheese and butter cookies can help a lot:)
God Bless Freedom!

9:36 AM  
Blogger Fed Up Arab said...

Guys, has anyone seen this?
http://counterterror.typepad.com/the_counterterrorism_blog/2006/02/fabricated_cart.html
I wonder if it's true, anyway interesting to read that!

Have a look at this now: This is the way Moslems discuss things.

http://www.internet-haganah.us/harchives/005437.html

I like this site http://www.internet-haganah.us
They follow up on all Jihad news and internet sites, and help to shut down those sites apparently. This scary article is from their site.

And they have a buy-Danish article:
http://off-topic.internet-haganah.com/archives/000188.html

heh heh, already www.supportdenmark.com has Arabic language section and Arabic banners to buy Danish. I'm thankful to the owner of that site for accepting my help; this is the least one can do!

9:55 AM  
Blogger Henrik said...

Yes, I have been wanting to do a post on this for a long time, but the "lying imam"-routine just keeps on developing.

One example: The most prominent of the imams - Abu Laban - has been caught redhanded supporting the boycot on al Jazeera, then later the same day saying in Danish television that he opposes it.

Takkiya in action.

Henrik

11:47 AM  
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